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The friendship between Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen wasn’t hard to spot during Obama’s eight years in the White House. Springsteen performed at Obama rallies in 2008 and 2012, received the Kennedy Center Honor from the president in 2009, and then performed an intimate 15–song set for Obama staffers as they prepared to leave in 2017. But witnessing a friendship between two famous people play out in public is very different from hearing about it from them directly—which is where new podcast Renegades: Born in the USA comes in.
Launching today on Spotify with the first two of eight episodes, Renegades promises “a personal, in-depth discussion between two friends exploring their pasts, their beliefs, and the country that they love—as it was, as it is, and as it ought to be going forward.”